Comments on: 2010 Prediction One: Privacy Makes the Frontpage http://www.opposableplanets.com/future/2009/12/2010-prediction-one-privacy-makes-the-frontpage/ Social Tools Follow Social Rules Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:16:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: The Entrepreneurial Economy | The Indigo Heron Group, Inc. http://www.opposableplanets.com/future/2009/12/2010-prediction-one-privacy-makes-the-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-615 The Entrepreneurial Economy | The Indigo Heron Group, Inc. Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:04:30 +0000 http://www.opposableplanets.com/?p=1001#comment-615 [...] true impact of the social web is privacy.  Or, more accurately, the line between private and public.  Never before has it been more [...] [...] true impact of the social web is privacy.  Or, more accurately, the line between private and public.  Never before has it been more [...]

]]> By: Small Business Skydiving | The Pragmatic Populist http://www.opposableplanets.com/future/2009/12/2010-prediction-one-privacy-makes-the-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-586 Small Business Skydiving | The Pragmatic Populist Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:27:18 +0000 http://www.opposableplanets.com/?p=1001#comment-586 [...] true impact of the social web is privacy.  Or, more accurately, the line between private and public.  Never before has it been more [...] [...] true impact of the social web is privacy.  Or, more accurately, the line between private and public.  Never before has it been more [...]

]]> By: The Entrepreneurial Economy | The Pragmatic Populist http://www.opposableplanets.com/future/2009/12/2010-prediction-one-privacy-makes-the-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-584 The Entrepreneurial Economy | The Pragmatic Populist Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:59:44 +0000 http://www.opposableplanets.com/?p=1001#comment-584 [...] true impact of the social web is privacy.  Or, more accurately, the line between private and public.  Never before has it been more [...] [...] true impact of the social web is privacy.  Or, more accurately, the line between private and public.  Never before has it been more [...]

]]> By: Alora http://www.opposableplanets.com/future/2009/12/2010-prediction-one-privacy-makes-the-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-540 Alora Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:40:46 +0000 http://www.opposableplanets.com/?p=1001#comment-540 I like the idea of a new lexicon around the notion of privacy; I wish it were an are that got a bit more focus, because I think it's far more meaningful than most people probably assume. And no, I don't think you're an alarmist, per se, but still struggling with the inadequacy of language to keep up with our <a href="http://www.workingpoint.com/blog/2009/12/21/small-business-skydiving/" rel="nofollow">current social conditions</a>. <br><br>As you noted, a great many people were upset last week by the changes of Facebook's privacy policy. As someone who has very low expectations when it comes to the amount of privacy it is reasonable to expect on the web, I am always a little surprised to see the severity of people's reactions when this happens. But, part of the problem, is that the granularity of privacy expectation is highly subjective and highly fluid. And people whose privacy expectations map more directly to a pre-web world than to a web 1.0 world (where everything was binary, and if you were online, you pretty much gave up your hopes of privacy) are going to continue to be bothered by the shifting lines, until we come up with better ways for them to feel more in control.<br><br>I don't think it's radically dissimilar to the "friends" notion on Facebook: it's a limitation of language that was always there (after all, how do most of us refer to former friends we haven't spoken to in years, but still remember fondly? Facebook isn't the only place that the word "friend" was over-used and misapplied), but which modern social context makes more visible.<br><br>Either way, the problem is only going to continue to get more complex over time, and I think the first step is acknowledging that -- just like so many other social constructs that fit our Industrial Age world -- the very nature of privacy is different in an Information Age, and we need to update not only our expectations, but also the language we use to define them. I like the idea of a new lexicon around the notion of privacy; I wish it were an are that got a bit more focus, because I think it's far more meaningful than most people probably assume. And no, I don't think you're an alarmist, per se, but still struggling with the inadequacy of language to keep up with our current social conditions.

As you noted, a great many people were upset last week by the changes of Facebook's privacy policy. As someone who has very low expectations when it comes to the amount of privacy it is reasonable to expect on the web, I am always a little surprised to see the severity of people's reactions when this happens. But, part of the problem, is that the granularity of privacy expectation is highly subjective and highly fluid. And people whose privacy expectations map more directly to a pre-web world than to a web 1.0 world (where everything was binary, and if you were online, you pretty much gave up your hopes of privacy) are going to continue to be bothered by the shifting lines, until we come up with better ways for them to feel more in control.

I don't think it's radically dissimilar to the “friends” notion on Facebook: it's a limitation of language that was always there (after all, how do most of us refer to former friends we haven't spoken to in years, but still remember fondly? Facebook isn't the only place that the word “friend” was over-used and misapplied), but which modern social context makes more visible.

Either way, the problem is only going to continue to get more complex over time, and I think the first step is acknowledging that — just like so many other social constructs that fit our Industrial Age world — the very nature of privacy is different in an Information Age, and we need to update not only our expectations, but also the language we use to define them.

]]> By: Alora http://www.opposableplanets.com/future/2009/12/2010-prediction-one-privacy-makes-the-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-519 Alora Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:40:46 +0000 http://www.opposableplanets.com/?p=1001#comment-519 I like the idea of a new lexicon around the notion of privacy; I wish it were an are that got a bit more focus, because I think it's far more meaningful than most people probably assume. And no, I don't think you're an alarmist, per se, but still struggling with the inadequacy of language to keep up with our <a href="http://www.workingpoint.com/blog/2009/12/21/small-business-skydiving/" rel="nofollow">current social conditions</a>. <br><br>As you noted, a great many people were upset last week by the changes of Facebook's privacy policy. As someone who has very low expectations when it comes to the amount of privacy it is reasonable to expect on the web, I am always a little surprised to see the severity of people's reactions when this happens. But, part of the problem, is that the granularity of privacy expectation is highly subjective and highly fluid. And people whose privacy expectations map more directly to a pre-web world than to a web 1.0 world (where everything was binary, and if you were online, you pretty much gave up your hopes of privacy) are going to continue to be bothered by the shifting lines, until we come up with better ways for them to feel more in control.<br><br>I don't think it's radically dissimilar to the "friends" notion on Facebook: it's a limitation of language that was always there (after all, how do most of us refer to former friends we haven't spoken to in years, but still remember fondly? Facebook isn't the only place that the word "friend" was over-used and misapplied), but which modern social context makes more visible.<br><br>Either way, the problem is only going to continue to get more complex over time, and I think the first step is acknowledging that -- just like so many other social constructs that fit our Industrial Age world -- the very nature of privacy is different in an Information Age, and we need to update not only our expectations, but also the language we use to define them. I like the idea of a new lexicon around the notion of privacy; I wish it were an are that got a bit more focus, because I think it's far more meaningful than most people probably assume. And no, I don't think you're an alarmist, per se, but still struggling with the inadequacy of language to keep up with our current social conditions.

As you noted, a great many people were upset last week by the changes of Facebook's privacy policy. As someone who has very low expectations when it comes to the amount of privacy it is reasonable to expect on the web, I am always a little surprised to see the severity of people's reactions when this happens. But, part of the problem, is that the granularity of privacy expectation is highly subjective and highly fluid. And people whose privacy expectations map more directly to a pre-web world than to a web 1.0 world (where everything was binary, and if you were online, you pretty much gave up your hopes of privacy) are going to continue to be bothered by the shifting lines, until we come up with better ways for them to feel more in control.

I don't think it's radically dissimilar to the “friends” notion on Facebook: it's a limitation of language that was always there (after all, how do most of us refer to former friends we haven't spoken to in years, but still remember fondly? Facebook isn't the only place that the word “friend” was over-used and misapplied), but which modern social context makes more visible.

Either way, the problem is only going to continue to get more complex over time, and I think the first step is acknowledging that — just like so many other social constructs that fit our Industrial Age world — the very nature of privacy is different in an Information Age, and we need to update not only our expectations, but also the language we use to define them.

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